"Oh, and if Manning is correct, famine. Gift ...
"Oh, and if Manning is correct, famine. Gift of agriculture."Actually, it seems to me that grains (especially wheat) were/are grown as a protective hedge against famine. Case in point: grains are easy...
View ArticleOne last comment of mine (for now), a book recomme...
One last comment of mine (for now), a book recommendation; it's from 1939 and it is entitled "Nutrition and Physical Degeneration: A Comparison of Primitive and Modern Diets and Their Effects" -...
View ArticleJohnN, My favourite "reverse" OCP, in o...
JohnN,My favourite "reverse" OCP, in one of my least favourite films, was the tragic case of the galaxy conquering aliens who hit an OCP when they invaded Earth on Independence Day. A sophisticated...
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Peter is a gentleman and doesn't argue for the sake of it especially if he doesn't have all the information, but I think the issues are more complex, Theo. Regarding grains as a palliative for famine,...
View ArticleFrom the abstract for the 'Science' articl...
From the abstract for the 'Science' article: 'After the domestication of animals and crops in the Near East some 11,000 years ago, farming had reached much of central Europe by 7500 years before the...
View ArticleHave a look at some info on Scandinavia I found ht...
Have a look at some info on Scandinavia I foundhttp://dienekes.blogspot.com/2009/09/modern-scandinavians-descended-from.htmlThe hunter-gatherers (...) existed in parallel with farmers for more than a...
View ArticleLightcan, The concept that people took up agricul...
Lightcan,The concept that people took up agriculture as a a means to deal with expanding population is utterly wrong. For a few million years we slowly expanded our population as HGs or GHs, depending...
View ArticlePeter: "Plus we are currently living beyond t...
Peter: "Plus we are currently living beyond the Primary Productivity based on the stored Primary Productivity from ancient herbage, oil. When it's gone it's gone. Not sure the Earth is making new oil...
View ArticleInteresting. Is it thought to be an Earth-Formatio...
Interesting. Is it thought to be an Earth-Formation derived source of hydrocarbon (in which case there is absolutely NO replacing it at all), or some other planktonic/animal derived product, in which...
View ArticleI don't know how to embed links but here's...
I don't know how to embed links but here's a recent NYT article on it.http://www.nytimes.com/gwire/2009/07/31/31greenwire-fossil-fuels-without-the-fossils-new-research-sa-796.htmlQuote:"Goncharov and...
View ArticleHmmm, so a possibility of ad-lib supply derived fr...
Hmmm, so a possibility of ad-lib supply derived from geophysical forces.... At least that might solve the petrol requirement issue for the vegetarian SUVs, even if it doesn't address the parking...
View ArticleI don't know why they claim they are first to ...
I don't know why they claim they are first to show that higher order alcane can form from methane under heat and pressure. The Russian-Ukrainian made these experiments in the fifties.The best site on...
View ArticlePeter, I understand the two rat experiment and the...
Peter, I understand the two rat experiment and the idea of population growth based on available food supply (the example with the island) and how we take from other species to their detriment causing...
View ArticleLightcan, The dienekes link is fascinating now I ...
Lightcan,The dienekes link is fascinating now I get to read it. Gotta go work soon and back-shifts give no free time but...Oh BTW I was thinking re Scandinavia and co existence of HG's and...
View ArticleTheo~ thanks for the pointers and insights; and p...
Theo~thanks for the pointers and insights; and particularly for WAP's book. i don't think any of us has read it yet. ;)
View Articleshel - no problem. Lots of other good books @ http...
shel - no problem. Lots of other good books @ http://journeytoforever.org/farm_library.htmlA good quote from that book "Nutrition and Physical Degeneration: A Comparison of Primitive and Modern Diets...
View ArticleYes, Peter, definitely. And I don't even know...
Yes, Peter, definitely. And I don't even know if in Sweden they had wheat or oats. (Wink to Theo) They're talking about a wave of migration coming from Ukraine, which could be considered a northern...
View ArticleJust wanted to remark that subsistence agricultura...
Just wanted to remark that subsistence agriculturalists typically suffer more frequent and more severe famines than hunter-gatherers (ref: "Health and the Rise of Civilization" by MN Cohen). This has...
View ArticleCheers Stephan, I'd sort of thought along thos...
Cheers Stephan, I'd sort of thought along those lines...Peter
View ArticleI fully agree that the nomadic hunter-gatherers an...
I fully agree that the nomadic hunter-gatherers and herders of the past were much more physically robust than most modern settled/agricultural humans. That is indisputable. However, remember also that...
View Article(continued from above) "The Nomads, then, li...
(continued from above)"The Nomads, then, lived a life of ill-balance by not following the rule of return, which is the only stable rule of living. They were, therefore, forced to live a life of chance....
View ArticleTheo said about mankind: "They were more phy...
Theo said about mankind:"They were more physically tough of course, but utterly degraded, stupid, and insanely violent... human beasts."Hmmmm an interesting viewpoint. You've not read Quinn. I'd try...
View ArticleWould it be far-fetched to speculate the abrupt lo...
Would it be far-fetched to speculate the abrupt local change in mitochondrial DNA taking place with 'incursion' of supposedly violent farmers reflects cellular-level mitochondrial selection in...
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